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1.1.4 is out!
http://www.mlancentral.com/drivers.php
mLAN Driver / mLAN Tools for Mac OS X Release Note
Version History
V1.1.2 to V1.1.4
・ The software is now compatible with the n8, n12 and mLAN16E2 (with which the MOTIF XS8 is equipped).
・ Fixed a problem in which the driver might freeze when establishing the mLAN connection on a Mac Pro 8 core machine.
・ The software is now compatible with the expansion FireWire interface. When you establish the mLAN connection via the expansion FireWire interface installed to the computer, make sure to refer to the Limitations listed at the end of this file.
・ Solved some minor problems.
V1.1.1 to V1.1.2
・ Support for Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard has been added.
・ Reduced CPU load.
・ Solved some minor problems.
V1.0.6 to V1.1.1
・ In addition to the conventional applications, the CoreAudio/MIDI driver for mLAN now will be installed via this installer in this new updated version.
・ Improved the Driver's latency problem.
・ Reduced CPU load.
・ Deleted the File menu of mLAN Auto Connector. (Please use mLAN Graphic Patchbay when connecting two or more mLAN devices.)
・ Solved some limitations in mLAN Graphic Patchbay.
・ The amount of mLAN16E of transmission channels now can be changed.
・ Solved some minor problems.
V1.0.5 to V1.0.6
・ Now supports Macintosh computers using Intel processors.
・ Solved the problem that some audio port names shown in Digital Performer 4 do not match those shown in the Audio MIDI setup when using Digital Performer 4 or higher (Mark of the Unicorn).
・ Solved some minor problems.
V1.0.4 to V1.0.5
・ mLAN Graphic Patchbay now supports the S90ES (equipped with the mLAN16E).
・ Solved some minor problems.
V1.0.3 to V1.0.4
・ Now includes mLAN Graphic Patchbay V1.0.0.
・ mLAN Graphic Patchbay now supports simultaneous usage of multiple MY16-mLAN cards.
V1.0.2Public Beta to V1.0.3
・ Currently supports the MY16-mLAN.
・ Currently the previous status (stored automatically) can be recalled next time automatically or manually.
・ Currently adds the new function that enables you to save the connection status and setup data to a file then load them from the saved file.
・ mLAN Auto Connector can now handle two or more mLAN devices simultaneously.
・ Currently adds the new Device Identify function.
・ Currently adds the new Factory Set function.
・ Solved the problem that MIDI data error or incorrect MIDI data flow (which should be transferred through another port) might happen depending on the amount of the MIDI ports and bulk data size.
・ Solved the problem that you have to set the MIDI connection in the Audio MIDI Setup every time Mac OS is started. (This problem was found in versions of Mac OS X 10.3.5 or later.)
・ Solved the problem that you have to set the MIDI connection every time you open the Audio MIDI Setup window.
・ Solved the problem that you have to delete the previous device icon and the setup file of Mac OS X manually in the Audio MIDI setup window when using multiple mLAN devices in order.
・ You can now set the amount of the output channels for each device. (On the mLAN16E, however, the amount of the output channels is fixed to 16.
・ Solved some minor problems.
V1.0.1a to V1.0.2 Public Beta
・ Currently supports the i88X and mLAN16E.
・ Solved some minor problems.
Known Issues
The following problems have been recognized on this version of mLAN Driver/mLAN Tools.
1. Internal Clock only as wordclock master
On the current version of mLAN Driver/mLAN Tools, any external mLAN device connected to the computer cannot be used as the wordclock master. All the external mLAN devices connected to the computer will be used as the wordclock slave.
When using mLAN Graphic Patchbay, make sure to set the Macintosh (displayed as “Stream Driver”) as the wordclock master.
For detailed instructions on these settings, refer to the manual for each device.
2. Problems when using Logic series with a sampling rate of 44.1 kHz
On the current version of mLAN Driver/mLAN Tools, glitches and gaps in the sound may occur because of missing wordclock for a few seconds when starting a song or performing fast forward/backward repeatedly. When such a situation occurs, enter the blank data of approximately four seconds to the top of the song or try starting the record operation approximately four seconds before the intended record point.
3. Macintosh models which have restrictions on their ability to receive multiple audio/MIDI streams and connect multiple mLAN devices.
Yamaha has confirmed that the following models (listed below) can receive only four isochronous data streams via their internal FireWire ports. Among those streams, one stream will be used for FireWireIP by the Mac OS X, meaning that up to three streams are available for data stream of the mLAN devices. Each of these three streams can be used for audio signals or MIDI data sent from an mLAN device regardless of the amount of audio channels or MIDI ports. When handling both audio and MIDI using one of the following Macintosh models, you can connect up to one mLAN device, which consumes two streams for audio and MIDI. When handling only audio using one of the following Macintosh models, you can connect up to three mLAN devices, each of which consumes one stream for audio.
・ Mac Pro Xeon quad core/3GHz x 2(8 core)
・ Mac Pro Xeon dual core/2.66GHz x 2(4 core)
・ MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo/2.4GHz
・ MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo/2.33GHz
・ MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo/2.2GHz
4. When the port names are changed in Cubase by the number of ports
When changing the setup as described below in mLAN Auto Connector/mLAN Graphic Patchbay, the input of the VST connection may be set to “Missing: mLAN Network” when opening the Cubase file saved before changing the setup.
・ When changing the amount of the audio inputs (from the mLAN device to the computer) from 2 to 3:
・ When changing the amount of the audio inputs (from the mLAN device to the computer) from 3 to 2:
If such a case occurs, make the same setting again in the VST connection window.
5. Problems occuring when using Cubase series Version 4.1
When Cubase series Version 4.1 is open and the following operations are performed, audio transfer via the mLAN Driver is disabled. To enable audio transfer via the mLAN Driver again, restart Cubase.
・ Changing the Sample Rate in mLAN Connection Manager
・ Changing the Sample Rate in mLAN Auto Connector
・ Changing the Channel number in mLAN Auto Connector
・ Changing the Disconnect/Connect setting in mLAN Auto Connector
・ Changing the Sample Rate in mLAN Graphic Patchbay
・ Changing the Channel number in mLAN Graphic Patchbay
・ Changing the Connection setup in mLAN Graphic Patchbay
6. When establishing the mLAN connection using the expansion FireWire interface installed to the computer
When connecting the mLAN device to the expansion FireWire interface installed to the computer, follow the instructions below.
1) Quit the computer.
2) Connect the mLAN device to the expansion FireWire interface (installed to the computer) via the FireWire (IEEE1394) cable.
3) Turn on the mLAN device.
4) Start the computer.
5) Establish the mLAN connection by using the dedicated application software.
The software and documentation are the exclusive copyrights of Yamaha Corporation.
Product and company names mentioned in the installation guide are the property and trademarks of their respective owners.
Copyright (C) 2002-2008 Yamaha Corporation. All rights reserved.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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  | AndyLuvsMacs
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Re: 1.1.4 is out!
Um.
No external WordClock Master.
Disappointed.
Bum.
Any indications as to if this will ever happen ? Yamaha_US ? Geosync ?
01x, G5 Dual 2.7, OSX 10.4.11 & 10.5.6, DP5.13, SX3, NI Kmp5, Melodyne.
Edited by AndyLuvsMacs (09/03/08 02:52 PM)
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| arlen
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(09/03/08 12:59 PM)
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major upgrade?
Reminder our credo---from the brochure.
"01X means you just literally plug in and play. "
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| chrismcc1
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(09/03/08 01:59 PM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out!
That is it?
We waited one year for this?
Am I missing something? Where is improved CPU performance? Improved management of Midi over Mlan so that CPU doesn't go through the roof? External Worldclock? ...
They have just confirmed what we know about the newer Mac hardware that doesn't work, added compatibility with the N series so they can claim that Mlan is now working with the N series on a Mac.
Who is going to inform all those poor N series clients and prospective clients that Mlan on the Mac is not up to specs (the Yamaha Mlan specs published and advertised over two years ago)? That they don't even get external worldclock so that they can take their fancy lightweight mixers on the road after they disconnect from their computers?
What AM I MISSING?
I am not surprised nobody from Yamaha took the time to advertise this new release on this forum. They probably are ashamed and don't dare even approach us.
I don't know who I feel sorrier for... us or the few honest guys within Yamaha who like us believed this would be a major improvement for us and who asked us to trust Yamaha.
Post Edited 9/4/08
Updated PS: This post was made on the basis of the new items list published by Yamaha for this update. The list is apparently grossly underestimated as there appear to be a lot more improvements then listed and this new driver may turnout to be the one we have been waiting for. Fingers crossed and read on as more users provide feedback after actual testing...
Christian
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Edited by chrismcc1 (09/04/08 02:06 AM)
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| geosync
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(09/03/08 03:21 PM)
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Am I missing something? Where is improved CPU performance?
On the dual G4 Leopard machine ... NO CPU SPIKES and 17% CPU while running Logic 8 with an Impuse Reveb
Improved management of Midi over Mlan so that CPU doesn't go through the roof?
See above
External Worldclock? ...
Driver promised by end of August many, many months ago..
One week late....
External word clock promised by end of the year at the same time as August GP..
It's not the end of the year.. This new team is delivering what they promise. The CPU load is excellent, the 8 Core MACs and PCI firewire card issue seem to be addressed. Everything except External Wordclock..
We just got the driver, we'll let you know more as we know.
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| AndyLuvsMacs
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(09/03/08 03:58 PM)
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All fair comments I guess - and if external wordclock is definitely coming, then if Apple hadn't left us dangling for all that time I suppose we'd have had it already.
Thanks for posting, Geosync.
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| zibba
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(09/03/08 04:05 PM)
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just given it a quick go in 10.5.4, seems to be all ok.
there's a new 'connection manager' item that appears near the clock in the top right (not sure what that area is called). it has a little menu from where you can launch GP.
not sure what the 'connection manager' part is for though as it doesn't seem to actually connect to my 01x & i88x. maybe geosync can throw some light on this?
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| ElmerJFudd
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(09/03/08 04:51 PM)
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I've installed.
There is now an mLAN manager. It is a little app with an interface that appears in the upper right corner of your screen near the date, volume control, time machine, and mobile me sync. This is a method of cleaning up three separate applications that Yamaha currently has for connection... the autoconnector, graphic patchbay, and connection manager (which appears to be the AI driver for the XS w/mLAN16e and N series mixers - Geosync can you confirm this?).
Depending on what devices you own you can run peer-to-peer with one, autoconnect one or multiple, and custom wire with the graphic patchbay to one or multiple (old and new). These methods are all accessible from the mLAN manager. It is similar to what Yamaha puts in the System Tray on Windows, not exactly as there is no "APPLY" button on the Windows graphic patchbay (where patching changes are done in real time). But it cleans up the GUI and makes things simpler in general.
Before the mLAN manager you had to go digging in your applications folder for which application/method you needed to use for the hardware you own.
I'll post back as I learn more.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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| ElmerJFudd
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(09/03/08 05:07 PM)
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The autoconnector has save, recall, and remembers last state, so when using the next time, you can recall the connection setup just by starting the autoconnector.
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| ElmerJFudd
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(09/03/08 05:09 PM)
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The Factory Set button now does a proper reset of the isoch channels in situations where your 01X's ability to connect to you Mac got buggered by previously being on a Windows network. So Geosync's reset tool is no longer necessary.
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| ElmerJFudd
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(1) Sync from a device other than the Mac
Of course I am unhappy that this feature has not yet been implemented. I do not know what makes this technically difficult, I am not an engineer, but I do know that we have not gotten this feature from either Apple or Yamaha, and Yamaha is working on mLAN (even if it is during their spare time while they prepare drivers for newer products), where Apple no longer is (I respect Apple's efforts to keep our devices working with OSX when it was unclear what Yamaha's break with Apple on mLAN meant for us). Geosync has suggested on the forum that software for the newer products has been delayed by their cleaning up mLAN. I can't say what the case is either way, but we have had two updates from them when they said they would appear, their newest products can be networked with ours, and that surely says something. And, of course, Geosync suggests this is coming yet.
(2) No more CPU bursts
This was vastly improved in the previous Yamaha release already. What surprised me quite a bit is how much better the Yamaha drivers run on Leopard than on Tiger. Again, I am not sure if it is improvements that Apple has made in OSX or because the Yamaha engineers concentrated on optimizing the driver for Leopard which most of us have moved on to anyway.
(3) No more random offset.
I have a calculated a specific offset that I account for in Logic with my setup: 01X:i88x:i88x. My audio prints where it should even after restart, power down, reset. There may be a small difference in offset, depending on which device in the network you are recording from. I expect to see this even on the record bus inside the 01X itself. Strangely enough, the A/D ins on both my i88xs report the same offset.
(4) GP able to act as an actual patchbay.
One of the issues that was originally brought up was the ordering of connections, I'm able to cable any Out to any In and vice versa, so that is fine. I'd like to see our graphic patchbay active and working in real time (when cable one point to another it takes effect immediately without have to hit apply). It's only a one click inconvenience but, but it does take a moment for the network to reset itself. This might be because of core audio on OSX. Depending on how they are constructing the core audio "streams". they might have to tear it down and rebuild it to get the new number of audio channels. This might not be a limitation on Windows because Yamaha doesn't need to use an existing driver framework. Just guessing, again... not my area of expertise.
(5) The new drivers should be backward compatible to at least Mac OS 10.4.4
They are.
(6) The new drivers should be compatible with PPC G4 and G5 computers
They are.
(7) The new drivers should be free for all present owners of Mlan equipment using Mac OSX
They are.
Just my perspective on the issue, YMMV. Particularly because of the amount of time it has taken to get here, and that is understandable. But, regardless, every step Yamaha takes toward giving my hardware longevity is welcome (which is what they have done with OS9, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, XP, XP64, and Vista compatibility; having it work on G4, G5, Core2Duo and Xeon machines; and developing network-ability between three generations of products). There is not too much in the way of making very nice recordings with this gear at this point.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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| geosync
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(09/03/08 07:24 PM)
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In reply to:
This is a method of cleaning up three separate applications that Yamaha currently has for connection... the autoconnector, graphic patchbay, and connection manager (which appears to be the AI driver for the XS w/mLAN16e and N series mixers - Geosync can you confirm this?).
This is correct
1: The connection Manager is the AI Driver used for connecting one AI Device (n series or Motif XS) It will automatically discover the device and make all connections.
OR
2: Auto Connector for connecting one mLAN device (01X,i88X,mLAN16e,MY16mLAN)
3: Graphic Patchbay bothe AI and mLAN devices
Clear as mud right?
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| ElmerJFudd
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(09/03/08 08:28 PM)
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Great, that's how I understood it.
Here is a look at CPU with this release of the drivers for those that are considering install.
The setup:
AUDIO
MIDI
WClck
CPU with mLAN running
More complicated audio routing
CPU with configuration above running
This is on my now lowly dual 2ghz G5, I suspect the 8 core fellows have plenty of headroom for their AUs.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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| chrismcc1
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Georges,
Thankyou for your response, as always precise and encouraging.
Why is the new features list so dismal? I have not had time to test the new driver and my reaction was based on the features list posted by Yamaha. That list, remains pitiful!
You are suggesting there is a lot more under the hood with this release then is suggested in the new features list. It says absolutly nothing about CPU improvements, reorganisation of the various applications into a single menu tray item, lower or no offset, saved and remembered state, etc...
Clearly if these are all there, we have a fantastic driver, but why such poor publicity then?
I must say, Yamaha have got to be among the worst communicators! (at least they have got you to set things straight, and thanks again for that).
I will try and do some testing over the next week or so and hopefully will be happy to revert back with an update and amendment or mea culpa to my initial post.
My best personal regards as always
Christian
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| Acelera
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Indeed, the guy that writes the driver release notes needs slapped and forced to watch all seasons of 'All My Children' as due penitence.
This driver is a HUGE upgrade - why not spell it out?
Here's why I think so:
1. CPU usage now is as low as any audio interface I've had the fortune of working with.
2. The driver 'just works' now. I've not managed to get any of the funny crashes I'd manage to get 1.1.2 to do under duress.
3. CPU spikes are gone. Even on maxed out projects with a pile of SSL Duende plugins splattered over my audio tracks.
4. Contrary to what Yamaha hinted at back in the day - and to what I thought myself - the Motif XS and N8/N12 are now part of the mLAN family. I didn't think this would ever come to the Mac and that we'd carry on with the AI versus mLAN disparity.
George asked me to install this driver last night and I was VERY skeptical myself. Why on earth would I want to go from AI back to mLAN? I was having pretty good performance on my Macbook Pro + N12 combo but it's gone up a few notches further now.
I don't know how many of you have used the AI drivers for the XS and N families - I'm delighted to have a unified driver set that is truly the best of breed. Better CPU/firewire management than either the latest AI or the previous mLAN (and that is saying something - AI was already very good), the flexibility of the GP combined with the ease of use of the AI connection manager. Good riddance to the bloody mLAN templates. I always hated them.
If Yamaha keeps on this road, we're on a far, far better place. Just get cracking on making the Mac the wordclock slave now, guys.
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| chrismcc1
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Acelera,
That is indeed great news! I am now growing increasingly impatient to try this driver out over the weekend.
I am currently in the middle of the upgrade to Cubase 4.5 and I didn't want to risk trying several upgrades at the same time to avoid confusion as to what was causing what. As I said earlier, I relied on Yamaha's new items list...
I am going to revert back to the previous Cubase the quirks of which I am now familiar with and test the new driver.
If all goes well I will then move up to C4.5. I have a feeling there have been some mods under the hood in Cubase as well that affect firewire audio and audio interfaces in general...
I am astonished at this communication (lack of) from Yamaha.
They seem to work against themselves where Mlan is concerned! Now that they have the killer product they announced (in which only the announced external worldclock is missing), they seem shy on really saying so.
The front page of Mlan central doesn't even mention the update!
Really strange... Clearly as we test this driver, I am hoping we will all be convinced, and subsequently we will obviously advertise our satisfaction (I would be happy to update the petition page etc...). But a little more enthusiasm from Yamaha might not be a bad idea either!!!
Aside from Georges who kindly responded a few times on this thread, there still is no official announcement of the release on this site or elsewhere!
PS: On a side note, I wrote this using Chrome! Keyfax sites work great, and pretty fast on it!
Christian
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| chrismcc1
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I have edited my initial post further above in the thread so futur readers will be inclined to read on before drawing any conclusions...
Christian
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| ElmerJFudd
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Just to clarify what I am seeing regarding improvements in CPU use of Yamaha's driver since they began working on it in house.
v1.1.1 on Tiger
v1.1.2 on Leopard with 5x5 MIDI engaged
v1.1.4 on Leopard with 5x5 MIDI engaged.
This low CPU use is "spikeless" regardless of how heavy the audio routing is.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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| skitta
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Ok, here's my take on the driver. First reaction was also "is this it?" after downloading and only reading the release notes.
Returning today and reading the comments it seemed more promising, so I updated. I must say it sure felt lighter performance wise right away. I opened some older projects with lot's of stuff in them and was able to play a song using two Space Designer, Addictive Drums and two Guitar amps before one of the CPU-meters were constantly at "red" (logics performance meter). Even then it played for the most time, so the CPU spikes are mostly gone and CPU usage more even.
Next test, adding my extra Firewire cards that never worked with the previous drivers (mLAN devices showed up in GP but couldn't connect). It seems to work now if I use the internal FW port for mLAN and the extra cards for other stuff like hard drives (FW800 available at last!). Just installing the cards broke everything previously.
Last thing on my list, getting mLAN MIDI to be usable again. That also works, which gives me 4 more available ins and outs, and less kludges (I used 01x-i88x MIDI connected to another MIDI port for Logic Control). I tested this just briefly, but if it still taxes the CPU it does much less than earlier (= changed from being completely unusable to seemingly working as it used to).
So generally I think it seems like a very good update (except for the release notes...  ) Btw, I'm still on my Dual G4 867MHz, so I do notice and I was in need performance improvements. This is the driver I would have wanted when I bought the system in 2004. Now waiting for the wordclock fix... 
(My rig: Dual G4 867MHz, 01x, i88x, ES6 (w/o mLAN), Logic 7.1, MacOSX 10.4.11)
Edited by skitta (09/04/08 01:30 PM)
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| DaveCanada2
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DaveCanada here... I've been trying to post for months, but my account seems locked up. I posted a PM to GeoSync - hopefully he can set me up.
So far i like the 1.1.4 drivers, and it's nice to hear that the external sync will be coming soon.
Side note - I mean, on-topic note - because of the improved CPU performance it looks as though I can get the latency a lot lower on CPU intensive projects - at least in my initial testing with Cubase 4.5.1
Hmmm... now that I can use mLan with AI devices on the mac - like the Motif XS series, I'm pondering an XS 7. I'll have to think about that a little more, but it could help keep my CPU down a little lower and still allow me to track midi in busy projects - which I can't really do no unless I use my *really* cheap synths - i.e., Yamaha DJX (how embarrassing).
Cheers,
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| Jedanor
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Did I read that right that you can now have two different types of devices on the firewire line? Or is it still just mlan only? I'm about to sell off my 01x but if I can use it as a controller front end to my 003 I'll keep it and use it. Anyone know if that is possible?
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| geosync
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No just mLAN and AI (Motif XS and n series)
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| Jedanor
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(09/05/08 06:47 AM)
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Thanks Geo. Just thought I would ask before hitting Ebay. I hope it all works out for you guys. Keep up the good work.
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| Acelera
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Now that's what I call a long shot...
Not that you can use the Mackie Control protocol as a front end to Protools anyway. You'd need HUI emulation which the 01x doesn't have.
Hope it goes well with the 003, I've heard it's a notch above the 002.
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| Jedanor
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Ace,.....thought I'd ask before ditching it.
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| chrismcc1
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(09/06/08 02:49 AM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out!
I have now installed the new driver and tested it last night with CUBASE 4.1.2 for about two hours switching back and forth between the new and old driver (alternating starting up the computer from two separate but internal SATA backup system drives, one with the old driver installed and the other with the new driver installed), and using the same Cubase project each time.
Follows a description of the conditions of my tests (you can skip this and go to the conclusions further down if you like):
- The project has about 11 mono audio tracks and seven midi VSTi tracks. The VSTis are Halion One, Hypersonic, Wavestation (from the Korg Digital Collection series) and LM7. Hypersonic is played using three midi tracks (with up to 7 patches loaded in the banks at one time...). Three 21 inch monitor setup with project in main window and two mixer windows open in alternative monitors. VSTs used: Two sessions of Roomworks, three of Studio EQ, one Vintage compressor, one MDE-X and one Final Master on the mixdown output track. I consider this project to be an average project that I would expect most homestudio musicians would expect their setups to be able to handle as a composition is gradually created and put together.
- Sample Rate 512. Cubase indicates an input latency of 12,667 and output latency of 11,333. (Since my Studio Vision Pro days, I have always considered that an input latency of 12 ms or less is within comfort zone, so this is my target for any decent homestudio setup).
- Computer and audio: Dual 2.5 PPC with I88x and 01X. Graphic Patchbay setup as follows: I88x has 2 ins and 12 outs connected; 01x has 10 ins and 12 outs; Computer has 24 ins and 4 outs. Again, I consider this to be a reasonable setup for recording and one that I consider is what Yamaha convinced me would be possible two years ago when I invested in Mlan according to Yamaha's very own specs. Of course I could have a separate GP setup when mixing down to reduce CPU consumption, but I wanted to test things in a homestudio setting (which is what Mlan is designed for) in which the user would not necessarily expect to have to make changes continuously. Granted, some may consider my setup to be close to professional, but again that's what I wanted and what Mlan was described as being capable to deliver on the Mac two years ago. Most home studioists want to switch on the computer and record or mix without having to think too much about what he needs to do to squeeze additional ressources out of the CPU before playing around with the inspiration of the moment...
CONCLUSION:
Tests were conducted initially freezing all VSTi. This is because before the update to Mlan 1.1.4, the track would not play at a sample rate of 512 without CPU interrupts.
So I started with all VSTi tracks frozen.
Results: Playback interrupts several times using Mlan 1.1.2 drivers. The song will only play cleanly at a sample rate of 1024. At a sample rate of 512 the CPU VST performance window in Cubase is at 50-60% and regularly spikes to 100% with audio interrupts.
With the Mlan 1.1.4 driver the project plays back at a sample rate of 512 flawlessly (interstingly there is just one spike when I play back the song the first time, and then all is fine!?!?!?).
Next I started switching VSTis back on by unfreezing the tracks. I did this only with the Mlan 1.1.4 driver as the older driver had already reached its limit.
The project continues playing back at a sample rate of 512 with all VSTis back on and solliciting the CPU. The track plays with just two or three interrupts essentialy when the Hypersonic tracks play together.
The CPU performance window remains at 50% or so all along and spikes only twice during playback when Hypersonic is heavily sollicited.
I tried all the above tests with Apple's Activity Monitor window open. The activity monitor was up to 100% most of time with 1.12, it now moves between about 75 to 100% with 1.14.
I am also writing this post as the project is playing in the background with just the very few interrupts indicated above.
Clearly there is an improvement in CPU consumption with the new driver. I wouldn't necessarily call it major, but it is "bloody good!". I would consider major to be above 50%, and my results indicate closer to 25 to 30%. BUT, (the big but) the difference although less noticeable in the CPU performance graphs, is quite noticeable for the user and my impression is that my studio as now gained appreciated flexibility and what I consider to be a very decent sample rate and latency.
I would expect these results to be even better on a Quad macintel and can finaly consider upgrading my computer with Mlan. Donations for this project can be sent to my personal account number ... ... ...
I did not test autoconnector. The little Mlan pulldown menu is nifty and gives the Mlan environment a more cleaned up look and feel. It is not essential as I had become accustomed to launching the GP at startup (it was in my startup folder with my GP setup file) so all I had to do was hit apply each time.
I understand the AC now remembers the last state. I wonder whether this is of any use to GP users? Is there a way to get the AC to remember the last GP state? As anyone successfully tested this?
I will now upgrade Cubase from 4.1 to 4.5 and report back if I find further improvements or the opposite (you can never be sure with Steinberg who can be absolute genius' one day and a bunch of nuts the other!!!!).
Finaly, to Yamaha if they read this far, I would like to say thanks. This IS a good update and Mac users can now boldly go where no mac musician has gone... ...
I am now both enthusiastic with Mlan, rather damn proud of my homestudio, and looking forward to December.
Sorry for the long post and I hope this helps...
Christian
G52x2.5,OS10.5.6,SX4.1,O1x,I88x
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| valmundo
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(09/06/08 08:18 AM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! - My results
Finally had the chance to install the latest drivers to see whether or not this was the improvement we've all been waiting for. For the most part, the release is a winner! My setup is as follows:
Apple iMac Intel Core Duo (1st Generation - 2.0 GHZ and 2 Gigs of Ram)
Yamaha 01X
Yamaha i88X
Yamaha Motif ES with mLAN expansion
Yamaha N8
Various synths and effects racks
As we all know, the previous drivers did not allow me to have both 2nd Generation mLAN products (01X) with third generation products (n8). I was forced to run bootcamp if I wanted to have both units working in tandem. Naturally, when the latest drivers were released, this was the first thing I tested. I AM PLEASE TO REPORT THAT EVERYTHING WORKS PERFECTLY! Please note, one cannot connect all inputs and outputs from all four units due to bandwith limitations inherent with firewire, but I was able to connect ALL AVAILABLE MIDI PORTS! (i.e. all ports from the 01X plus all midi ports from the i88X, n8, and Motif ES). I am not concerned with input / output limitations anyway because having that many inputs and outputs is beyond my needs. Additionally, this limitation is a "flaw" with the firewire 400 protocol and not Yamaha's drivers, but I digress.
As everyone has stated previously, the drivers are much more efficient regarding CPU load. Even with all the midi ports enabled, the CPU load is significantly reduced...No spikes! I am also able to put my computer in sleep mode and upon awakening, mLAN works fine! (I only tried this once and it worked but I am going to keep my computer on for a couple of days to see if mLAN consistently works upon the awakening of my Mac).
The only thing for me outstanding is the wordclock issue and if that is fixed in December, I will be very happy.
IN CONCLUSION:
This release delivers. It doesn't appear as if it will support the new products from Steinberg...yet, but even so, the inclusion of the n-series and Motif XS indicates that Yamaha is still committed to supporting mLAN for some time to come.
Good Job Yamaha!
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| sikander
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(09/06/08 11:09 AM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! My wishlist...
1) graphic patchbay starts automatically on startup (no need of "apply" or drivers more integrated with system)
2) don't loose connection in stop mode
3) In case of disconnect, possibility of reconnect without restart system
Will be possible...?
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| valmundo
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(09/07/08 03:04 PM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out!
Day two and so far so good.
Sleep mode seems to work now with mLAN.
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| tuf
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(09/08/08 11:34 PM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! My wishlist...
Did they really not fix the problem Sikander describes:
"3) In case of disconnect, possibility of reconnect without restart system. Will be possible...?"
Thats a pretty big issue, and Yamaha knows all about it. Can someone who's had this issue report in on the new driver? I've had no other problems with the last version of the driver, so I figure its probably not worth upgrading if this fix isn't addressed.
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| tuf
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(09/09/08 12:28 AM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! My wishlist...
I decided to give it a test myself. My intital result: It works properly!
I was able to quit the GPB and restart it multiple times, and it never failed to reconnect.
I was also able to turn off my 01v96 and i88x, turn them back on, and reconnect w/o incident. I DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO REBOOT THE COMPUTER.
This was my last big gripe, and at first glance Yamaha have appeared to fix it. Right now I'm glad I held on to my mLAN gear (and not so glad I just picked up the adat card for my 01v96!).
Tuf
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Edited by tuf (09/09/08 12:29 AM)
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| Acelera
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(09/09/08 01:03 AM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! My wishlist...
Sleep works here too as well as device restarts and the new 'connector' fits in very well with the OS.
Can't ask for anything else apart from external wordclock, now.
Well done Yamaha.
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| Mr Ben
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(09/09/08 05:05 AM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! My wishlist...
Everything works fine here at last.
Hopefully this Mlan rollercoaster is over now,i've been so close so many times to just getting rid but now i'm glad i stuck with it.
Thanks to Yamaha for sorting this out,but i must say its about time.
And to be honest i don't understand how or why it has taken so long.
But i'm happy now
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| tuf
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(09/10/08 08:57 PM)
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What exactly is the new connector? I've got the little connection manager thing in my toolbar, which seems like an easy way to get to the connectors... but I have no idea what it does, and I still cant get the auto connector to work like it did about 2 years ago...
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| ElmerJFudd
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(09/11/08 04:43 AM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! My wishlist...
Tuf,
From the 8th post in this thread,
In reply to:
There is now an mLAN manager. It is a little app with an interface that appears in the upper right corner of your screen near the date, volume control, time machine, and mobile me sync. This is a method of cleaning up three separate applications that Yamaha currently has for connection... the autoconnector, graphic patchbay, and connection manager (aka the AI driver for the XS w/mLAN16e and N series mixers).
Depending on what devices you own you can run peer-to-peer with one, autoconnect one or multiple, and custom wire with the graphic patchbay to one or multiple (old and new). These methods are all accessible from the mLAN manager. It is similar to what Yamaha puts in the System Tray on Windows, not exactly as there is no "APPLY" button on the Windows graphic patchbay (where patching changes are done in real time). But it cleans up the GUI and makes things simpler in general.
Before the mLAN manager you had to go digging in your applications folder for which application/method you needed to use for the hardware you own.
So, you can only use one method at a time. If you are trying to use the autoconnector, be sure to turn off the connection manager and graphic patchbay. If you are using the graphic patchbay, be sure to turn off the autoconnector and connection manager, etc. The new driver has documentation, take a look through it, each method is described with pictures.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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| chrismcc1
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(09/11/08 06:32 AM)
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But as far as I can tell, for the moment the autoconnector does not remember the last state of the GP.
There was a time when you could make a setup in GP. And the autoconnector could use it and remember it thus avoiding having to launch the GP every startup, and hit apply to get your audio setup working...
As anyone figured how to do this with today's driver?
Christian
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| geosync
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(09/11/08 10:31 AM)
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Without going into detail of the older technology...
With OSX, you had a SUPER Autoconnector (not the real auto connector) and a Graphic Patchbay-like editor for the Super autoconnector. Actually when you hit "apply" you actually lauch the SA.
Now time warp to today
The Auto Connector remembers the "Single" mLAN device that it connects
The Device manager or AI driver remembers the "Single" AI device connection
The graphic patchbay requires that you click the "Apply" button each time.
You may find this useful...
Save your GP template and add it to your login items..
once your computer lauches (or logs in) GP will lauch with the template loaded
Just click apply or CMD(apple key) 6
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| chrismcc1
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(09/11/08 11:02 AM)
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Georges,
Yes that is actually the most elegant workaround that I have found so far, and it also worked with the previous version of the driver and GP.
Once the teamplate is launched at startup you just have to hit the apply button.
It would have been kind of neat if the GP could have been designed to automatically "apply" a template that was used to launched the GP. ie, when you double click a GP template to launch the GP, the GP actually applies the template. That way, when the template is a startup item that is launched at startup and then launches the GP, it wouldn't be necessary to hit apply again.
This is not absolutly necessary of course but would be kind of a neat feature to have...
Christian
G52x2.5,OS10.5.6,SX4.1,O1x,I88x
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| geosync
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(09/11/08 11:18 AM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! My wishlist...
There are most likely solid technical reasons why GP doesn't automatically launch. We will have to see if this condition changes when an external device can clock the system...
I'm sure all will agree that they will trade a click for a stable, effecient driver
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| jayson
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(09/11/08 04:33 PM)
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Re: 1.1.4 is out! My wishlist...
Hey geosync,
In case you haven't noticed, there is a post in the Windows forum that I you might be able to reply to! :-)
Cheers,
jayson
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| sikander
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(09/15/08 12:01 PM)
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not working for me...
If I work with videos (imovie, Final cut express or others) it disconnects and I'm not able to reconnect. Only with reboot.
Working a lot with other applications, sometimes I have disconnections and I have to reboot.
And my wishlist is still here....
In other case, for example I have a m-audio 410 firewire, all working good, I have not to open a patchbay and click apply, and it doesn't disconnect in any case....
www.alessandrolamuraglia.it
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| velvet
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(09/16/08 04:28 AM)
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f_ck!
I do not like the new driver
Gives me this message, when I want to connect all 32 ins/outs to/from a Mac:
The IEEE1394 bandwith is insufficient. Reduce the number of output channels for the node by adjusting the parameter in the Node information (Audio) window
this with 01x aand i88x , never (or hardly) hapenned before
I am still on PPC , now on Quad Core machine
aside this - the driver seems to be fine
01x, i88x, PowerMac QUAD G5 2.5,
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| velvet
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(09/16/08 04:35 AM)
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Re: not working for me...
so, I connected mLan through PCIe card (Allegro express I think) and the it seems I can connect like before without warning messages about insufficient bandwith
maybe that Quad PPC G5 really has lower 1394 bandwith than dual PPC G5 I had before?
who cares now - if it will work this way
01x, i88x, PowerMac QUAD G5 2.5,
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| ElmerJFudd
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(09/16/08 05:11 AM)
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Great that they seem to have sorted use of alternative firewire controllers. Also, I recall with older versions of the driver that there was little in the way of warning messages, wether the connections were being made or not.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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| chrismcc1
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(09/16/08 06:52 AM)
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Velvet,
I was going to suggest you try that! That is great news and another great plus for Mlan on the Mac!
Christian
G52x2.5,OS10.5.6,SX4.1,O1x,I88x
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| velvet
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(09/16/08 02:02 PM)
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Re: not working for me...
Yes guys, the neverending story of weird messsages caused by plugging mLan to PCI firewire card instead of internal firewire is over now!
And all connections (their graphic representations) remain as they were before hitting APPLY button in GP
That seems to be also a major update
gongratulations to everyone who finaly wrote this piece of software
and big Thank you to Athan, Geo and co. for their support
01x, i88x, PowerMac QUAD G5 2.5,
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| valmundo
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(09/16/08 03:12 PM)
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It appears this update is "substantial". I am quite pleased.
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| tuf
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(09/16/08 09:32 PM)
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I might have spoken too soon on my post earlier. While the driver does indeed appear to be much more robust, it still cant really handle mLAN power offs/ons.
Tonight I flipped on the gear and tried to run the GPB, and was presented with the classic cant connect error. As far as I know, the only recovery for this is if you reboot.
Also, if you try to run the GPB and connect while the mLAN manager is active (ie: you started GPB outside of the manager) itll freak it out and give you the same sort of cant connect message.
Works well, but still cant give me the turn-the-gear-on-and-off-at-will warm fuzzy I am looking for.
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| ElmerJFudd
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(09/17/08 06:22 AM)
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Re: not working for me...
Tuf, the mLAN manager is just a short-cut to the various applications that exist for Yamaha devices on OSX. None of these can be active at the same time. So you must choose:
A) Autoconnector - for older mLAN devices with preset templates.
B) Graphic Patchbay - for multiple older and newer mLAN devices to be networked.
C) Connection Manager - simple peer-to-peer connectivty for the newer mLAN gear (also known as the AI driver).
So, the Connection Manager can not be active when you have already (or are trying to) call up the graphic patchbay. There is no "other" graphic patchbay, just the one in the applications folder. You can launch it yourself, or just use the mLAN Manager to call it up.
It has been suggested in this forum that you could create a template for the graphic patchbay and stick it in your start up items so the graphic patchbay launches on its own and loads the template. Then you just have to hit apply to get going.
Remember to have your mLAN hardware attached and on before launching the graphic patchbay, because obviously the hardware must be there and active in order for audio and midi streams to be established. Personally, I would never plug in or unplug an mLAN device while the graphic patchbay is active. And I would quit the graphic patchbay first, rather than shut down the mLAN devices which have established streams actively running to/from the units.
White MacBook '09 (4gb RAM), OSX.5.8, v.1.2 mLAN tools, Logic 9, 01X, S90ES, i88x & i88x
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| chrismcc1
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(09/17/08 07:20 AM)
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Re: not working for me...
To second Elmer's comments:
You wouldn't unplug a FW hard drive without ejecting it first from the desktop, eventhough FW is hot plug and play. Don't ask Mlan to do any better! The cosiness you are hoping for Mlan is actually the cosiness you are hoping for FW technology. We can't ask Yamaha to do better for FW then those who invented FW in the first place! We must be reasonable.
The addition of the Mlan manager is a bit confusing for those of us who have become acustomed to living so long without it. The Mlan Manager is just a convenience so you don't go looking in the application folder for your Mlan apps. Elmer's explanation on this is really the way to go!
I can confirm that if you use the GPB, you can really get just about as cosy as you are suggesting by putting your GPB configuration file in the startup folder. When you startup, the GBP will launch, and open your setup. All you have to do is then hit "Apply". Outside help could be employed for this last step, but the cost may actually outweigh the benefits!!!
Christian
G52x2.5,OS10.5.6,SX4.1,O1x,I88x
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| tuf
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(09/19/08 12:32 AM)
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Re: not working for me...
I guess I wasnt clear. The GBP does not seem to be able to reestablish connectivity with my hardware reliably once its powered off.
I was just providing an example of one way to confuse the mLAN driver by mentioning the manager in my example above.
My real problem is is this:
Finish session in Logic and shut it down
Quit GBP
Turn off 01v96
(Mac stays on)
Turn on 01v96 the next morning
Start GBP
Cant connect error!
As you can see, I'm not doing anything abusive here. I'm not asking miracles, and I'm not yanking the devices out from under the mLAN driver. A firewire drive, as well as a MOTU 828 can handle this sort of thing.
All I'm saying is that sometimes the above sequence works, and sometimes it doesnt. The new driver vastly improves the situation, since the previous driver WOULD NOT reconnect w/o a reboot.
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mLAN rig: Quad 2.66/01v96/i88X/Logic Studio 8/Cubase SX3
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| chrismcc1
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(09/19/08 03:09 AM)
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Re: not working for me...
Tuf,
Believe it or not, I actually never tried this!!!
I can change GPB configuration but I never actually switch off anything... (the Mlan gear or the computer...).
I'll check this weekend if I can do this on my system and report back...
Christian
G52x2.5,OS10.5.6,SX4.1,O1x,I88x
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| geosync
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(09/19/08 09:59 AM)
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Re: not working for me...
Just curious ..
What happens if you log off your mac and log back on before turning on your 01V
The new driver notes (read me or install guide.. I can't remember)..
states that the mac should be turned on before the mLAN device.
Maybe just logging off will do and be faster.
It has to do with reseting the firewire bus if I recall..
Maybe worth a try?
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